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Banana - 11-06-2008
I feel like calling the radio station (I really have to stop listening to the damn radio).
The announcer brings up the fact that California had now recinded the legal marriage of gays thing. She follows it up with this bonehead statement: "It absolutely shocks me that a country who would elect a black president would not support gay marriage"
How the fuck are those two related? All liberals like blacks and gays? I want to ask her if I should be pro-choice if I am black. Seems like a valid question at this point.
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BIRD33 - 11-06-2008
Its a weird correlation to make but I guess she assumes a country progressive enough to elect a black blah blah blah.
Gay rights is the new civil rights movement of our time.Nobody is getting sprayed with a hose but in 30 years we are all going to be scratching our heads as to how ignorant we all were.Its another issue the GOP is on the wrong side of and even the dems are a little scared to get 100% behind it for fear of losing catholic voters.
I personally don't see why they have to get married other than to put the fact that they are equal in all our faces.If they can get the same benefits and everything that comes with being married who cares if the state will marry you?
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Banana - 11-06-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:I personally don't see why they have to get married other than to put the fact that they are equal in all our faces.If they can get the same benefits and everything that comes with being married who cares if the state will marry you?
Well, that's their question. Why do YOU care if they do get married? They get all the rights anyways, why kybosh the legality of it?
I am super liberal about gay relationships. They should have all the same rights and abilities hetero couple have. But, I hate gays. Like, I hate the way they always have to make a damn statement, like gay pride parades.
They have evolved in their demands. First, they don't want to be treated differently because of their sexual orientation. They say "we're not any different." Then, they realize "oops, we like being different" and ask everyone to help them celebrate their differences. But, they still want to be treated the same. You can't have it both ways bucko.
I feel the same way about feminists, but am more enraged about them.
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BIRD33 - 11-06-2008
Its fascinating what gets your goat.
I don't want to make it illegal I just don't get why they care so much about marriage which is just a phrase not an actual thing.There is no difference from being married or being common law married.I know they just want respect but I wouldn't care about a governments opinion of my personal life enough to make demands about totally superficial titles.I pretty much agree with almost everything you said.
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Banana - 11-06-2008
I'm actually surprised they care so much about being married, legally, too. Like anyone else, the day will come when they wish they never got married.
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BIRD33 - 11-06-2008
I'm still on the fence about gay adoption which I know is narrow minded.I just think its all to confusing for a young kid to grasp.
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Banana - 11-06-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:I'm still on the fence about gay adoption which I know is narrow minded.I just think its all to confusing for a young kid to grasp.
Pick up the book KID, by Dan Savage. I think I've referenced it here before.
It's a great eye-opener for people who feel the way you do about it, and there are many of you.
Best part of the book: he (the gay author) fanatasizes about the woman who is going to give her baby to them (they opt for an open adoption). He imagines the woman and how normal and great she would be and he always get stuck on imagining her saying to her family "I've found the perfect couple to adpt my baby! FAGS! I'm giving my baby to FAGS!"
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BIRD33 - 11-06-2008
I have no doubt they can be good parents.I just feel bad for a kid who has to deal with getting teased for having crappy clothes because his parents are poor and can't imagine the shit a kid would take if his parents are gay.The worlds not perfect I realize and I wouldnt vote against it,probably not vote at all.
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Banana - 11-06-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:I have no doubt they can be good parents.I just feel bad for a kid who has to deal with getting teased for having crappy clothes because his parents are poor and can't imagine the shit a kid would take if his parents are gay.The worlds not perfect I realize and I wouldnt vote against it,probably not vote at all.
It undoubtedly places the kid in a uneviable position.
One of the main reasons people can't accept gays parenting isn't that reason though. It is the assumption that gays are "odd" and will expose the child to their odd sexual practices.
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BIRD33 - 11-06-2008
Flumpers kid seems to have made out ok.
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Flumper Barflusterbutt - 11-06-2008
Banana Wrote:Well, that's their question. Why do YOU care if they have equal rights? They get all the rights anyways, why kybosh the legality of it?
I am super liberal about negros. They should have all the same rights and abilities whites have. But, I hate negros. Like, I hate the way they always have to make a damn statement, like negro pride parades.
They have evolved in their demands. First, they don't want to be treated differently because of their skin color. They say "we're not any different." Then, they realize "oops, we like being different" and ask everyone to help them celebrate their differences. But, they still want to be treated the same. You can't have it both ways bucko.
I feel the same way about feminists, but am more enraged about them.
fixed.
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Banana - 11-06-2008
Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:fixed.
Yeah, the paragraph is still true. I just didn't want to link blacks to gays, cause that's what I was complaining about.
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Banana - 11-06-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:Flumpers kid seems to have made out ok.
Flump is white. Ergo, he is straight. Ask Jamie, the radio announcer. That's how it works.
Guess this means you are a fag, Bird.
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BIRD33 - 11-06-2008
Banana Wrote:It undoubtedly places the kid in a uneviable position.
One of the main reasons people can't accept gays parenting isn't that reason though. It is the assumption that gays are "odd" and will expose the child to their odd sexual practices.
I'll be honest and say thats about 15% of my thinking only because gays seem to be very liberal in who they sleep with compared to heterosexuals.Maybe thats a stereotype but AIDS exploded in the gay community because of that.
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BIRD33 - 11-06-2008
Banana Wrote:Flump is white. Ergo, he is straight. Ask Jamie, the radio announcer. That's how it works.
Guess this means you are a fag, Bird.
I'm on the down low.Us blacks have a very complicated relationship with homosexuality.
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Banana - 11-06-2008
BIRD33 Wrote:I'll be honest and say thats about 15% of my thinking only because gays seem to be very liberal in who they sleep with compared to heterosexuals.Maybe thats a stereotype but AIDS exploded in the gay community because of that.
They are, as a group, more liberal about who they sleep with. But, (read the book), he addresses these issues so much more eloquently than I do.
I've done shit in my past that maybe someone might say "well, how would you feel if your daughter knew about that?" Well, I don't plan on drawing her the diagram, ya know? Sex is for adults. Responsible adults are not going to expose their children to their sex lives, whether they are gay or not.
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BIRD33 - 11-06-2008
I know I'm stereotyping them but those crazy parades with a bunch of queers sashaying down the street half naked with body paint doesnt help dissuade that idea in my head.It seems to me that part of their problem in not getting respect is not acting in a respectable manner as far as society is concerned in those parades.Its the only frame of reference some people have with gays.
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Banana - 11-06-2008
That's why those parades piss me off. "Don't treat us differently!" You're fucking freaks for crying out loud, how the hell are we supposed to treat you. You want to be treated normal, act normal!
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BIRD33 - 11-06-2008
Their response I guess would be that is normal to them.Thats why I don't feel that comfortable with them adopting kids.