07-21-2010, 06:51 PM
CT280 Wrote:i dont think sandog knows this thread is even here.
I'll ask him at FB ...
Why do I keep this cesspool alive?
Today is the day Sandog
I'll ask him at FB ...
Why do I keep this cesspool alive?
07-21-2010, 06:52 PM
leeman Wrote:I'll ask him at FB ...
how many fucking people do you have on that thing?
07-21-2010, 07:04 PM
CT280 Wrote:how many fucking people do you have on that thing?
4-500 ......
Why do I keep this cesspool alive?
07-21-2010, 07:07 PM
Fuck San Dog.I hope if he see's this he realizes that Notre Dame now officially won that game during Weiss's first year where they got screwed on that goal line call.Fuck yea!
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07-21-2010, 07:20 PM
Are they going to take the Heisman back?
07-21-2010, 07:23 PM
Anhil8tor Wrote:Are they going to take the Heisman back?
I know USC won't be displaying it or any Bush or OJ Mayo pictures in their hall of fame.USC won't recognize Bush as a Heisman winner but I'm not sure that means he's been officially stripped of it.
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07-21-2010, 08:31 PM
Earlier today USC announced that it was “revoking” Bush’s Heisman Trophy award and returning its copy of the trophy to the Heisman Trust.
USC was not required to do so by the NCAA, but school President-elect Max Nikias made the unprecedented announcement Tuesday while also introducing new school athletic director Pat Haden.
The Heisman Trophy Trust’s governing board meets July 27 and is expected to rule on what to do with Bush’s trophy at that time. 2005 Heisman runner-up Vince Young has reportedly said that he would not take the trophy if offered.
Before Bush blew off the scheduled online chat, USC Rivals Site USCFootball.com reported that Haden had decided to “unretire” Bush’s #5.
The new USC AD also expressed full support of Nikias’ move to strip Bush of college football’s most prestigious award on ESPN-TV before Bush’s prescheduled web video appearance.
USC was not required to do so by the NCAA, but school President-elect Max Nikias made the unprecedented announcement Tuesday while also introducing new school athletic director Pat Haden.
The Heisman Trophy Trust’s governing board meets July 27 and is expected to rule on what to do with Bush’s trophy at that time. 2005 Heisman runner-up Vince Young has reportedly said that he would not take the trophy if offered.
Before Bush blew off the scheduled online chat, USC Rivals Site USCFootball.com reported that Haden had decided to “unretire” Bush’s #5.
The new USC AD also expressed full support of Nikias’ move to strip Bush of college football’s most prestigious award on ESPN-TV before Bush’s prescheduled web video appearance.
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07-21-2010, 08:34 PM
damn...
what did michigan do to webber when he got popped?
what did michigan do to webber when he got popped?
07-21-2010, 08:50 PM
Thats an interesting question so I looked it up.
By the fall of 2002, it had become clear that Michigan's basketball program was guilty of major violations.[3] In response, Michigan decided to impose its own sanctions on the program.[38] Initially, Michigan announced it would forfeit every game in which the four players appeared.[38] On November 7, 2002; Michigan president Mary Sue Coleman and athletic director Bill Martin announced that the school was imposing sanctions of its own on the basketball program. Among them:
No postseason play in 2002–03, even though the players who took Martin's money were no longer at the school.
The school vacated the entire 1992–93 season and every game it played from the 1995–96 season through the 1998–99 season. This included the 1997 National Invitation Tournament title and the 1998 Big Ten Tournament title. It also vacated its two Final Four games in 1992 and its entire NCAA tournament record in 1993, 1996, 1998 and 1999. There is a difference between forfeiting a game and vacating a game; a vacated game does not result in the other school being credited with a win. This included virtually the entire career of Fisher's successor, Brian Ellerbe. However, it did not include all games that Webber played or was eligible because all but the final two games of his freshman year were retained.
Returning $450,000 received from the NCAA for postseason play in 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999.
Banners commemorating the 1992 and 1993 Final Four runs, the 1997 NIT title and 1998 Big Ten Tournament title would be removed from the rafters at Crisler Arena.
Two years' probation.
Coleman described what happened as "wrong, plain and simple." She also said, "I am determined that nothing like this will ever happen again at Michigan."[38]
At 8:00 A.M. that same day, the four banners were removed from the rafters.[40] Four days later, the athletic department officially deleted all mention of Webber, Taylor, Traylor and Bullock from the school's athletic records. These included Traylor's MVP awards in the 1997 NIT and 1998 Big Ten Tournament, as well as Bullock's standing as the Big Ten's all-time leader in 3-point field goals and the school's third all-time leading scorer and all-time leader free throws made. The deletions came because the payments may have compromised their amateur status. Several players not implicated in the scandal continue to be listed among the school's honorees such as Rob Pelinka (Walter Byers Scholarship, 1993), Juwan Howard and Jalen Rose (All-American, 1994) and Jerod Ward (All-Big Ten Tournament Team, 1998).[41]
Michigan finished the 2002–2003 season with a 17–13 record, but sat out both that year's NCAA and NIT tournaments due to the self-imposed postseason ban.[42]
Most shocking is that a member of the Fab 5 is still playing in the NBA.
By the fall of 2002, it had become clear that Michigan's basketball program was guilty of major violations.[3] In response, Michigan decided to impose its own sanctions on the program.[38] Initially, Michigan announced it would forfeit every game in which the four players appeared.[38] On November 7, 2002; Michigan president Mary Sue Coleman and athletic director Bill Martin announced that the school was imposing sanctions of its own on the basketball program. Among them:
No postseason play in 2002–03, even though the players who took Martin's money were no longer at the school.
The school vacated the entire 1992–93 season and every game it played from the 1995–96 season through the 1998–99 season. This included the 1997 National Invitation Tournament title and the 1998 Big Ten Tournament title. It also vacated its two Final Four games in 1992 and its entire NCAA tournament record in 1993, 1996, 1998 and 1999. There is a difference between forfeiting a game and vacating a game; a vacated game does not result in the other school being credited with a win. This included virtually the entire career of Fisher's successor, Brian Ellerbe. However, it did not include all games that Webber played or was eligible because all but the final two games of his freshman year were retained.
Returning $450,000 received from the NCAA for postseason play in 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999.
Banners commemorating the 1992 and 1993 Final Four runs, the 1997 NIT title and 1998 Big Ten Tournament title would be removed from the rafters at Crisler Arena.
Two years' probation.
Coleman described what happened as "wrong, plain and simple." She also said, "I am determined that nothing like this will ever happen again at Michigan."[38]
At 8:00 A.M. that same day, the four banners were removed from the rafters.[40] Four days later, the athletic department officially deleted all mention of Webber, Taylor, Traylor and Bullock from the school's athletic records. These included Traylor's MVP awards in the 1997 NIT and 1998 Big Ten Tournament, as well as Bullock's standing as the Big Ten's all-time leader in 3-point field goals and the school's third all-time leading scorer and all-time leader free throws made. The deletions came because the payments may have compromised their amateur status. Several players not implicated in the scandal continue to be listed among the school's honorees such as Rob Pelinka (Walter Byers Scholarship, 1993), Juwan Howard and Jalen Rose (All-American, 1994) and Jerod Ward (All-Big Ten Tournament Team, 1998).[41]
Michigan finished the 2002–2003 season with a 17–13 record, but sat out both that year's NCAA and NIT tournaments due to the self-imposed postseason ban.[42]
Most shocking is that a member of the Fab 5 is still playing in the NBA.
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07-21-2010, 08:53 PM
and signing with the heat right?
Thats crazy. I don't think i've ever read about all that.
Thats crazy. I don't think i've ever read about all that.
07-21-2010, 08:56 PM
Its not good when the college basketball team you root for has a wikipedia page called "University of Michigan Basketball scandal".I never knew this..
The case began when the investigation of an automobile accident during Mateen Cleaves' 1996 recruiting trip revealed a curious relationship between Martin and the Wolverine basketball program dating back to the 1980s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_...ll_scandal
The case began when the investigation of an automobile accident during Mateen Cleaves' 1996 recruiting trip revealed a curious relationship between Martin and the Wolverine basketball program dating back to the 1980s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_...ll_scandal
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