[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

That makes a lot of sense to me, now that you explain it.

Finally. Talk to BIRD

[BIRD33]

When the country was behind this, we were mowing them down under our terms. Since the liberals decided to spin this another direction and use it as their foothold to get back in control, everything has changed. The liberals and their spin machine is what has given the insurgents their boost over there.

They would rather lose the war and up the body counts so that they can get control, than back what nearly every one of those fucks backed 3-1/2 years ago.

You might can be wishy washy on what you want to do about social security. But when it comes to committing troops, when you sign up you better be in until the job is finished.

This simply isnt true.Look at the casulty rates and how they mirror bush's approval rating dropping well before the elections.Add that together with the American people being told we'd be greeted as liberators 4 years ago and you'll realize the Dems have nothing to do with support for the war falling.Blaming Dems for the Iraq war failing when they didnt make any of the policy decisions that failed is total fantasy.I guess 70% of the country is clueless.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

This simply isnt true.Look at the casulty rates and how they mirror bush's approval rating dropping well before the elections.Add that together with the American people being told we'd be greeted as liberators 4 years ago and you'll realize the Dems have nothing to do with support for the war falling.Blaming Dems for the Iraq war failing when they didnt make any of the policy decisions that failed is total fantasy.I guess 70% of the country is clueless.

Come one BIRD, you aren't that stupid.

Of course the turnaround didn't happen AFTER the elections, it happened during the campaigns leading up to the election. The more the liberals campaigned on how this was a failed mission, we had been lied to, blah blah blah blah, the insurgents rallied. Iran and Syria probably said, "Shit, they're waivering. The country is losing its support." Then they started helping out more and more. The more they campaigned, the more the public bought into it, the more the insurgents blew up Iraqis and Americans. Each event fueled the other.

Do you know what kind of a fucking victory dance Iran and al quaida will be doing if we just pulled out and admitted defeat like you suggest? I can't believe that the American people can turn their backs on these troops over there and start raising the hopes of the guerilla bombers that are attacking them. You sound like Jane fucking Fonda.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Look at the casulty rates and how they mirror bush's approval rating dropping well before the elections.

That's like saying look how the temperatures in Florida mirror the loss of citrus crops.

Which one caused which one. I say both were caused by the spin the democrats put on the war in their campaigns to regain control of the legislature.

[Davey Moore]

This Flumper guy drank the Kool Aid, didn't he?

[BIRD33]

That's like saying look how the temperatures in Florida mirror the loss of citrus crops.

Which one caused which one. I say both were caused by the spin the democrats put on the war in their campaigns to regain control of the legislature.

No I wouldnt compare American lives to oranges.That type of thinking is beyond ridiculous.People see whats going on over there and it wasnt what they were promised.Has nothing to do with any political party, just one administration in charge of making all the decisions.Be man enough to stand behind your leaders decisions without blaming others for their failings.

[Tribal Dragon]

This Flumper guy drank the Kool Aid, didn't he?

Let me summarize all of Flump's political posts for you;

Liberals, baaaad!
Clinton, baaad!
Democrats are to blame for anything that went wrong in the world!
Things are actually sunny and beautiful in Iraq.
It's the liberal media's fault!
War is ok as long as it's someone else or their kids are fighting it!

[Tribal Dragon]

That's like saying look how the temperatures in Florida mirror the loss of citrus crops.

Which one caused which one. I say both were caused by the spin the democrats put on the war in their campaigns to regain control of the legislature.

:lool: That's rich.

You don't think it has something to do with a failed war plan by our commander in dunce, and his bunch of merry tards?

[Mr.Hardcore]

Oh wait I forgot, clinton got a blowjob(while our economy was experiencing record growth with no deficits).

Clinton was handed Osama on a silver platter and did nothing. That cost a couple thousand civilian lives.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

I hope when Hillary says, "I'm in to win!" she means it more than she did when she supported the war in Iraq.

[Anhil8tor]

So the dems starting line this year is a woman and a black man?

[BIRD33]

Clinton was handed Osama on a silver platter and did nothing. That cost a couple thousand civilian lives.

Yup.A lot of people are to blame for not taking Osama seriously enough including GW who was handed a memo saying "Bin Laden determined to attack US" a few months before 9\11 but totally ignored it.We arent talking about the war in Afganistan being a total fuck up thats killing Americans every day.We are talking about a unprovoked war against a country that had nothing to with 9\11.Do you get it now you fucking retard?

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

So the dems starting line this year is a woman and a black man?

woman that doesn't know what it means to say "In to win" and a black radical extremist muslim from indonesia.

[Anhil8tor]

bin laden is dead now.


i'd put money on kidney failure...


any of you fucks checked out my "prince" special super bowl bets?

[BIRD33]

I hope when Hillary says, "I'm in to win!" she means it more than she did when she supported the war in Iraq.

You mean when she was given cherry picked intelligence that turned out to be pure fantasy she supported the war.

[BIRD33]

woman that doesn't know what it means to say "In to win" and a black radical extremist muslim from indonesia.

Believes GW was appointed by god./\

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

You mean when she was given cherry picked intelligence that turned out to be pure fantasy she supported the war.

Yeah, like when she said she didn't regret her vote to declare war because "clearly, Saddam Hussein had been a real problem for the international community for more than a decade."

That's being "In to win" alright. Or maybe that's being "I'm In to Win! unless it starts to look bad, then I'm Out and will settle for a loss even if it gets a bunch of troops killed. Whatever it is, I'm in for myself!"

[BIRD33]

Yeah, like when she said she didn't regret her vote to declare war because "clearly, Saddam Hussein had been a real problem for the international community for more than a decade."

That's being "In to win" alright. Or maybe that's being "I'm In to Win! unless it starts to look bad, then I'm Out and will settle for a loss even if it gets a bunch of troops killed. Whatever it is, I'm in for myself!"

Your made up quotes really were funny.No really.She supported it because we were told it was going to be easy.It hasnt been close to that.We were told that Iraq oil revenues would pay for the war.Its cost American tax payers 300 BILLION with an extra BILLION a month.If I supported something that turned out to be pure fantasy you can bet your ass I wouldnt kid myself and go down with the titanic.

It's GW's fault we're in this mess.No amount of blame shifting or distracting rhetoric can change that.Why don't you look up what Republican Senator Chuck Hagel is saying about the war that he once supported, the guys a realist and feels this has been a total disaster from start to finish and the only person to blame is GW.Its so far beyond a political pary issue and the fact that you're trying to make it that shows how little value you put on american lives and your total disconect from the consequences of the war.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Your made up quotes really were funny.

clearly, Saddam Hussein had been a real problem for the international community for more than a decade.

Five or six paragraphs down, end of the paragraph.

Try again dipshit. Your grasping.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Your made up quotes really were funny.No really.She supported it because we were told it was going to be easy.It hasnt been close to that.We were told that Iraq oil revenues would pay for the war.Its cost American tax payers 300 BILLION with an extra BILLION a month.If I supported something that turned out to be pure fantasy you can bet your ass I wouldnt kid myself and go down with the titanic.

It's GW's fault we're in this mess.No amount of blame shifting or distracting rhetoric can change that.Why don't you look up what Republican Senator Chuck Hagel is saying about the war that he once supported, the guys a realist and feels this has been a total disaster from start to finish and the only person to blame is GW.Its so far beyond a political pary issue and the fact that you're trying to make it that shows how little value you put on american lives and your total disconect from the consequences of the war.

Maybe you can hope for a few more deaths today to make you feel better about your argument. Man, if you could just get a big body count, you'd be on cloud nine.