[BIRD33]

I get most of that, honestly. But how ironic is it that the tree huggers and hippies are in charge while the biggest, most collossal environmental catastrophe that this country has ever been remotely faced with ( x about 5) is going on with a chance that it might not can be stopped.

I mean every protest, every tree they saved, every bird they rescued, or plastic bag they recycled in the past 30 years pales in comparison to the environmental disaster that is taking place. And there is enough CO2 being emitted by this cleanup effort to cancel out every green car made or that will be made in the next 50 years.

So yeah the chickens are home and roosting.

Thats a retarded view.Why even have anti litter laws if you're judging from that perspective.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Thats a retarded view.Why even have anti litter laws if you're judging from that perspective.

you seriously didn't post that did you? i need an IP check on that one.

[Anhil8tor]

Wednesdays are his golf day... give him a mulligan.

[BIRD33]

you seriously didn't post that did you? i need an IP check on that one.

Hey 8 agreed with you so you must be onto something.Why eat healthy since we all could get hit by a bus, why change the oil in your car if you plan on buying a new one eventually...All faulty logic but you and 8 are on the page.

[BIRD33]

Is there an oil shortage that I'm unaware off?

All this isnt about Oil's many uses its about 8 lining his pocket.Is the gulf worth ruining if we tap out in 20 years?

If production continues at today's rate, many of the largest producers in 2002, such as Russia, Mexico, U.S., Norway, China and Brazil will cease to be relevant players in the oil market in less than two decades.

There is oil in abundance.Its just in the middle east where its always been and somehow we still managed to be the greatest superpower on earth despite that.


Proved oil reserves are those quantities of oil that geological information indicates can be with reasonable certainty recovered in the future from known reservoirs. Of the trillion barrels currently estimated, 6% are in North America, 9% in Central and Latin America, 2% in Europe, 4% in Asia Pacific, 7% in Africa, 6% in the Former Soviet Union. Today, 66% of global oil reserves are in the hands of Middle Eastern regimes: Saudi Arabia (25%), Iraq (11%), Iran (8%), UAE (9%), Kuwait (9%), and Libya (2%).

So 6% of the total reserves that will run out in 20 years.Sounds like we are ruining the gulf for short term gains.

Continue to use mid east oil and concentrate like crazy on alternative energy to lessen their grip on our economy.Oil is the problem not the answer.


http://www.iags.org/futureofoil.html

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

.Oil is the problem not the answer.

Probably the best post you have ever made. And I have never understood why the Arabs like to fuck with everyone so much. They are going to have the whole world at their knees in a short time. They should be holding back oil now and making the rest of the world deplete their supplies. Which, from the looks of where oil prices have gone, doesn't sound that far fetched.

Canada should be holding on to all of its oil and not exporting any of it.

[BIRD33]

Probably the best post you have ever made.

Its in the top 100.

I think the Arabs know they have enough for at least the next 150 years.The dilemma for them is selling it before someone invents something to take oils place.Sounds crazy today but in a 100 years I've got to think we've made enough advances that oil could have its place taken by a new technology or substance.There barely were engines 150 years ago so who knows where we'll be 2 centuries from now.

[Flumper Barflusterbutt]

Its in the top 100.

I think the Arabs know they have enough for at least the next 150 years.The dilemma for them is selling it before someone invents something to take oils place.Sounds crazy today but in a 100 years I've got to think we've made enough advances that oil could have its place taken by a new technology or substance.There barely were engines 150 years ago so who knows where we'll be 2 centuries from now.

You know I would like to believe the same thing. But in the past 30 years or more we have seen absolutely no advancement in that idea. Its just very disturbing to me when you have a known problem. Very definable. And everyone knows what it is. And everyone knows that whoever solves it will be richer than Bill Gates. And yet every day its still there.

Another thing I wonder about, is that if all of the world's petroleum supply will basically come from Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon, think of the size of the empty void that will be left underneath the ground there. I mean can you even conceive of how large a volume that is? What takes its place?

[BIRD33]

You know I would like to believe the same thing. But in the past 30 years or more we have seen absolutely no advancement in that idea. Its just very disturbing to me when you have a known problem. Very definable. And everyone knows what it is. And everyone knows that whoever solves it will be richer than Bill Gates. And yet every day its still there.

Another thing I wonder about, is that if all of the world's petroleum supply will basically come from Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon, think of the size of the empty void that will be left underneath the ground there. I mean can you even conceive of how large a volume that is? What takes its place?

30 years ago there was no such thing as a home computer as we know it.Bill Gates was just some guy.100 years ago horses were the dominant form of transportation.The problem has only been definable since maybe the mid 70's and even after that shortage we beefed up our cars while decreasing our mpg's.After 9\11 I think people woke up a little to who's pockets we're lining.This spill will reinforce it more.Most importantly there is money to be made for whoever figures it out.Serious money.

I'd imagine sand takes its place.Who gives a fuck anyway.Sink holes in the middle of the desert.

[Anhil8tor]

There is some speculation that Saudi Arabia doesn't have as much oil as they claim to. No one knows really. Its all on speculation..... that and demand drive the price up and down.

[BIRD33]

Gulf awash in 27,000 abandoned wells

More than 27,000 abandoned oil and gas wells lurk in the hard rock beneath the Gulf of Mexico, an environmental minefield that has been ignored for decades. No one — not industry, not government — is checking to see if they are leaking, an Associated Press investigation shows.

The oldest of these wells were abandoned in the late 1940s, raising the prospect that many deteriorating sealing jobs are already failing.





http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100707/ap_o...zMEcHQDaG9

Math was never my strong suit, is 27,000 a lot?