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Serious Question - Hypothetical Situation
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Say you have two kids, aged 7 and 5. While playing one day one of them accidentally causes an accident that seriously maims and disfigures the other (say, knocks a frying pan with hot oil off the stove, or while playing rough pushes him out of a tree.) We're talking something that will take years of plastic surgery and this kid will never look "normal" again. But, it was caused by something that was truly an accident, with no malice in it. How do you handle that in terms of:

- punishment for the kid?
- the kids relationships with each other moving forward?
- blame?
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#2

I sell them both to gypsies and reap the benefits of being brat free again.
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#3

leucetios Wrote:Say you have two kids, aged 7 and 5. While playing one day one of them accidentally causes an accident that seriously maims and disfigures the other (say, knocks a frying pan with hot oil off the stove, or while playing rough pushes him out of a tree.) We're talking something that will take years of plastic surgery and this kid will never look "normal" again. But, it was caused by something that was truly an accident, with no malice in it. How do you handle that in terms of:

- punishment for the kid?
- the kids relationships with each other moving forward?
- blame?
First of all you get the child that was not injured very involved in the rehabilitation of the other one. You convince that child that while the accident was no one's fault and could not be prevented, you let them know how important their help is going to be in helping their brother/sister get better. You make them feel like they are in charge of the recovery. They are responsible for making him/her better and NOT responsible for hurting him/her.

In the meantime, you have to deal with your own emotions about the situation.

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leucetios Wrote:Say you have two kids, aged 7 and 5. While playing one day one of them accidentally causes an accident that seriously maims and disfigures the other (say, knocks a frying pan with hot oil off the stove, or while playing rough pushes him out of a tree.) We're talking something that will take years of plastic surgery and this kid will never look "normal" again. But, it was caused by something that was truly an accident, with no malice in it. How do you handle that in terms of:

- punishment for the kid?
- the kids relationships with each other moving forward?
- blame?
I wouldn't punish the kid. It's an accident. If anything, as a parent you may have not been paying close enough attention, or may not have educated your kids properly. Either way, the kid should not be punished. He/She has the rest of her life to live with what he/she did.

As for the relationship - the future therapy bill may be high. But, as kids, they shouldn't be forced to address those issues. You tell the injured kid it was an accident. You teach him that no one is to blame. You teach him that the family is a team.
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#5

Don't you think there is bound to be guilt. And on the other side of the coin there is going to be anger, and a feeling that your sibling robbed you of something and probably owes you. Do you think you would be surprised if the kids grew up estranged and didn't speak to each other as adults?
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leucetios Wrote:Say you have two kids, aged 7 and 5. While playing one day one of them accidentally causes an accident that seriously maims and disfigures the other (say, knocks a frying pan with hot oil off the stove, or while playing rough pushes him out of a tree.) We're talking something that will take years of plastic surgery and this kid will never look "normal" again. But, it was caused by something that was truly an accident, with no malice in it. How do you handle that in terms of:

- punishment for the kid?
- the kids relationships with each other moving forward?
- blame?

you must have watched csi last night...

having kids of this age it's a tough question to answer. As a human you cann't help but have some fleeting thought of blaming or wanting to punish the kid. As a parent you'd have to never let that emotion show. I as a parent would enclued both children in the healing process of the one. make him or her experiance the result of their carelessness first hand. And in that way I think the sibling bond would be increased.
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Bill Wrote:you must have watched csi last night...

having kids of this age it's a tough question to answer. As a human you cann't help but have some fleeting thought of blaming or wanting to punish the kid. As a parent you'd have to never let that emotion show. I as a parent would enclued both children in the healing process of the one. make him or her experiance the result of their carelessness first hand. And in that way I think the sibling bond would be increased.

missed CSI last night. What was it about? I am assuming it is relevant.
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#8

It depends on the situation that brought forth the accident. Say it was a hot pan of grease like you say. If it was left with the handle sticking out and one of the kids knocked it off by chasing each other through the kitchen, it is neither if the kids fault for a couple of reasons. Those being that parents should of taught their kids better than to run through the kitchen (or in the house for that matter) by that age. Also, it is common knowledge that you don't leave the handles sticking out off the stove with hot grease with kids around. At that age though that kind of behaviour comes naturally from kids. I reckon the best way to handle it would be to show both of the kids that shit happens. Life ain't always fair. As a parent I would probably remind them that I should have watched out better for them to relieve the blame when I saw tension mounting. A real toughie indeed.
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#9

make believe is so much funner than real life
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#10

- punishment for the kid? Not if it was an accident
- the kids relationships with each other moving forward? Thats really up to them or the injuried party.
- blame? Not unless you want one of them to kill themselves.

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#11

So do any of you think your initial knee jerk reaction wouldn't be anger at the kid that caused it? And in reality could really put aside the anger in the initial moments?
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#12

Therapy as adults may be necessary, but as parent's, you really need to reinforce that no one is to blame and you will heal together. Kids are left with emotional wounds all the time. They are just as destructive as physical wounds and scars.
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#13

leucetios Wrote:So do any of you think your initial knee jerk reaction wouldn't be anger at the kid that caused it? And in reality could really put aside the anger in the initial moments?

It would be if I would have taught them better. In other words if I had told them time and time again not to be running through the kitchen I would be very upset. but the first thing I would be concerned about was if the hurt child was ok and get him / her taken care of. Going into a rage/fit at the tiem it happened would do no one any good whatsoever.
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leucetios Wrote:So do any of you think your initial knee jerk reaction wouldn't be anger at the kid that caused it? And in reality could really put aside the anger in the initial moments?
No, I have found as a parent that my knee jerk reactions are generally better than I would have thought I would do.

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Beaucephus Wrote:It would be if I would have taught them better. In other words if I had told them time and time again not to be running through the kitchen I would be very upset. but the first thing I would be concerned about was if the hurt child was ok and get him / her taken care of. Going into a rage/fit at the tiem it happened would do no one any good whatsoever.

2nd, and mourning for yourself is quite selfish, though natural. children's well being ALWAYS comes first, even for a selfish prick like myself.

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leucetios Wrote:So do any of you think your initial knee jerk reaction wouldn't be anger at the kid that caused it? And in reality could really put aside the anger in the initial moments?


it's amazing, leu, how different one's reactions are when their own children are involved (exluding sociopaths, of course)

if one of the kids were one's own and the other were not, it might be different, but if both are your own, the instinct if toward healing

kudos to arby, bill, nana, beau and others for some outstanding insight

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#17

I would cry every night if it were my kid, if it was someone elses stupid kid that did it ....
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Asshat Wrote:First of all you get the child that was not injured very involved in the rehabilitation of the other one. You convince that child that while the accident was no one's fault and could not be prevented, you let them know how important their help is going to be in helping their brother/sister get better. You make them feel like they are in charge of the recovery. They are responsible for making him/her better and NOT responsible for hurting him/her.

In the meantime, you have to deal with your own emotions about the situation.

agreed assuming both kids are in the same household
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