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Damn Obama is stupid
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Two high ranking nominees pull out of their nomination due to income tax fraud. And one was his Health care Czar that was going to implement his famous health care for every american. What an idiot.
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PS Bird, I'm just living up to my legend of being a former hardcore.
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#3

Yea he should have done their taxes.

P.s.

We covered all this in 8's thread earlier.

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BIRD33 Wrote:Yea he should have done their taxes.

P.s.

We covered all this in 8's thread earlier.

Meh. You said Dashchle's were simple "math mistakes". I have a hard time figuring out how failing to report income from speaking fees is a "math mistake". Let's call a spade a spade (no pun intended).
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#5

I think this is a widespread problem with Washington and not just one party in particular.

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Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Meh. You said Dashchle's were simple "math mistakes". I have a hard time figuring out how failing to report income from speaking fees is a "math mistake". Let's call a spade a spade (no pun intended).

If they purposely lied I'm all for getting rid of them.No blind allegiance to Obama here.

Some of the issues (not Daschle) are simple accounting errors that arent a big deal.

I think Howard Dean will take Daschles place if he gets kicked out which from what I read the republicans would hate so I can see them compromising and letting Daschle slide.

These issues are nothing like the previous administrations issues.

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Cucumber Wrote:I think this is a widespread problem with Washington and not just one party in particular.

I agree.Part of the problem is it seems like the more you pay your accountant the more deductions and loop holes they seem to find.

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BIRD33 Wrote:If they purposely lied I'm all for getting rid of them.No blind allegiance to Obama here.

Some of the issues (not Daschle) are simple accounting errors that arent a big deal.

I think Howard Dean will take Daschles place if he gets kicked out which from what I read the republicans would hate so I can see them compromising and letting Daschle slide.

These issues are nothing like the previous administrations issues.

Here's how typical washington works. A guy (like Dashchle) gets a big nomination, then something about tax problems is leaked. Everyong acts like its not too big a deal and he pulls out of the nomination before they find out what he was really doing. If he is lucky, then it will stop. If he's not, then they will air out all of it.

I'm having a hard time figuring out why Obama is still defending him. This is pretty much what he campaigned to put an end to.
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#9

The people with the knowledge and capability to address some of these challenges aren't always on the up and up themselves. At least in Daschle's case he is not looking to be on any finance team.

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Flumper Barflusterbutt Wrote:Here's how typical washington works. A guy (like Dashchle) gets a big nomination, then something about tax problems is leaked. Everyong acts like its not too big a deal and he pulls out of the nomination before they find out what he was really doing. If he is lucky, then it will stop. If he's not, then they will air out all of it.

I'm having a hard time figuring out why Obama is still defending him. This is pretty much what he campaigned to put an end to.

I think he's looking at the big picture as far as health care is concerned.Its hard to find someone with the depth of knowledge about the issue and the influence and connections to get it done.Thats why Dean is next on the list.I hope this doesnt turn into some partisan bullshit where they say this isnt change blah blah blah because you sometimes are forced to deal with the cards on the table to get things done.

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Cucumber Wrote:The people with the knowledge and capability to address some of these challenges aren't always on the up and up themselves. At least in Daschle's case he is not looking to be on any finance team.

I don't like that his wife works with corporations that can benefit from his connections.Something is fishy about that but I don't think it disqualifies him.


I hate every time Obama does something unexpected or doesnt radically change something people shout "This isnt Change" its the battle cry for people set against him from the outset.He never promised to change everything in washington except the culture which I think he definitly has.Its not possible to change everything anyway without serious gridlock.

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BIRD33 Wrote:I think he's looking at the big picture as far as health care is concerned.Its hard to find someone with the depth of knowledge about the issue and the influence and connections to get it done.Thats why Dean is next on the list.I hope this doesnt turn into some partisan bullshit where they say this isnt change blah blah blah because you sometimes are forced to deal with the cards on the table to get things done.

I disagree that putting a tax evader in charge of health care is a good idea, regardless of his credentials. A thieving mentality doesn't isolate itself to one thing and then never do it again. Its a characteristic that boils over into all decisions and thoughts.
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#13

If he's proven to be a tax evader I agree with you.

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#14

How about a Treasury secretary that didn't pay social security or medicare taxes while employing an illegal alien?
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Anhil8tor Wrote:How about a Treasury secretary that didn't pay social security or medicare taxes while employing an illegal alien?
An accountant prepared his taxes no? He is liable for the amount due but the CPA never told him he owed anything and clearly the IRS didn't either. He submitted an amended return and paid the amount in full (when the discrepancy was revealed).

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Anhil8tor Wrote:How about a Treasury secretary that didn't pay social security or medicare taxes while employing an illegal alien?


I'd put money on the fact that flumper does this daily.
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#17

This shows that despite being informed of his tax responsibilities and given an employee tax manual and annual tax allowance request forms, Geithner still failed to pay years of self-employment and FICA taxes.

http://finance.senate.gov/press/Bpress/2...11309d.pdf
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#18

Flumper's right. Obama is stupid. McCain is so much above tax evasion.

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Bill Wrote:I'd put money on the fact that flumper does this daily.

You'd lose. If any of the guys that work for me, are in fact using forged documents that prove they are here legally, then they are still having their taxes paid by me. I don't have anyone under employment that isn't carried on the open payroll books.
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Anhil8tor Wrote:This shows that despite being informed of his tax responsibilities and given an employee tax manual and annual tax allowance request forms, Geithner still failed to pay years of self-employment and FICA taxes.

http://finance.senate.gov/press/Bpress/2...11309d.pdf

I sort of hate the whole "nanny tax" issue. Who in the world holds taxes from a nanny? or a yard guy or any of those kind of domestic jobs. Its like asking the kids with a kool aide stand to charge sales tax and report their income on some tax form. I'm not saying its not illegal, i'm just saying that to me it ranks up there right behind jaywalking or not coming to a full stop at a stop sign.
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