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heading into the all star break

In Reading, PA.

Basically they are either shitting on the team leader or their best up and coming pitcher.The Jays would have been wise to get Happ for Halliday.

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these problems usually get sorted out through injury or ineffectiveness.

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you're forgetting blanton
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quint Wrote:your forgetting blanton


You are so right.

Choose one of the three to start.Moyer, Pedro or Happ?

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it's usually the young guys who get transitioned to the "lights-out bullpen guy" during the playoff run.

even if happ is a better starter, he's much more versatile right now than guys like moyer and petey.

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WoolyGoat Wrote:it's usually the young guys who get transitioned to the "lights-out bullpen guy" during the playoff run.

even if happ is a better starter, he's much more versatile right now than guys like moyer and petey.

true.I sense he feels he's just better then Moyer who's gotten some good run support.Pedro just coming in after he wasnt even that good with the Mets is going to create tension.Supposedly Moyer getting his first world series win is very important to him.

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that makes sense.

the sox are kinda fucked after Beckett and Lester; it looks like Wakefield could actually be the #3 come playoff time. Penny has been mediocre at best, Smoltz has been awful, Buchholz has been lousy since getting called up, and Dice-K will be lucky to pitch again this year. good thing they grabbed Paul Byrd yesterday. yay.

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they should pair up moyer and pedro each are good for 4-5 innings. share a start.
sounds crazy, but either guy can't go long.
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cliff lee was pretty nasty again

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Rollins needed a homer to hit for the cycle.Lidge gets the save.

The debate now is if Hamels still pitches shitty his next few starts do you make Lee the #1 going into the playoffs.

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I just pre-ordered some back-to-back championship gear. I'm surprised they're not already selling 3peat stuff.

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I just hope Utley and Howard don't turn out to be juicers and our championships are illegitimate.

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for the sake of baseball, I hope so too.


you're also an idiot if that news would surprise you.

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no way utely is. he is too small.
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dude, manny alexander got busted for steroids

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I remember goat trying to convince everyone that the pats werent the only ones cheating.Its fucking pathetic but how else can a boston fan look himself in the mirror?

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I'm just saying it's beyond naive to be "absolutely convinced" that your team is 100% clean.

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grimsley was a phillie (probably before he juiced).
the other giambi was a phillie.
i am pretty sure dykstra was juiced up in 93.
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dykstra is in much worse trouble than that

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Pedro tonight, bitches.

Lidge blew another one last night.I'm somewhat concerned.


Moyer is crying about getting moved to the pen.He says the team mislead him during contract negotiations.As if they promised to keep him in the rotation if he pitched poorly.He's last in era for starters in the league.I can see being upset as a competitor but don't act like the promises only go one way.They promised you something and you promised to pitch fairly well.He hasnt lived up to his end either.I've lost a little respect for him.Thats his cross to bear.

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