[Anhil8tor]

*From ESPN*

1. Brett Favre
2. Tom Brady
3. Peyton Manning
4. Larry Allen
5. Ray Lewis
6. Richard Seymour
7. Jonathan Ogden
8. Marvin Harrison
9. LaDainian Tomlinson
10. Adam Vinatieri
11. Brian Urlacher
12. Orlando Pace
13. Michael Strahan
14. Junior Seau
15. Tony Gonzalez
16. Dwight Freeney
17. Champ Bailey
18. Derrick Brooks
19. Warren Sapp
20. Torry Holt
21. Shawne Merriman
22. John Lynch
23. Alan Faneca
24. Steve Hutchinson
25. Brian Dawkins
26. Walter Jones
27. Jason Taylor
28. Shaun Alexander
29. Julius Peppers
30. Antonio Gates
31. Troy Polamalu
32. Randy Moss
33. Ed Reed
34. Reggie Bush
35. Ty Law
36. Terrell Owens
37. Edgerrin James
38. Carson Palmer
39. Vince Young
40. Calvin Johnson
41. Matt Leinart
42. Rod Smith
43. Hines Ward
44. Chad Johnson
45. Lofa Tatupu
46. DeMarcus Ware
47. Larry Johnson
48. Steven Jackson
49. A.J. Hawk
50. Adrian Peterson

I mean seriously... what the fuck are they thinking?

[Anhil8tor]

Zach Thomas?
Joey Porter?
Mark Bulger?
Isaac Bruce?
Larry Fitzgerald?
Fred Taylor?
Joey Galloway?
Rhonde Barber?
Donnie Edwards?
La'Roi Glover
Willie McGinnest?
Brian Dawkins?

and if you put young, rothlesburger and leinhart.. shouldn't you have to put Cutler?

[Pong]

Strahan and S. Alexander are seriously low. Both have/had records and are shoo-ins.

[Anhil8tor]

Strahan and S. Alexander are seriously low. Both have/had records and are shoo-ins.

you gonna be around today? I may post my auction league team to see what you think...

[BIRD33]

*From ESPN*

1. Brett Favre
2. Tom Brady
3. Peyton Manning
4. Larry Allen
5. Ray Lewis
6. Richard Seymour
7. Jonathan Ogden
8. Marvin Harrison
9. LaDainian Tomlinson
10. Adam Vinatieri
11. Brian Urlacher
12. Orlando Pace
13. Michael Strahan
14. Junior Seau
15. Tony Gonzalez
16. Dwight Freeney
17. Champ Bailey
18. Derrick Brooks
19. Warren Sapp
20. Torry Holt
21. Shawne Merriman
22. John Lynch
23. Alan Faneca
24. Steve Hutchinson
25. Brian Dawkins
26. Walter Jones
27. Jason Taylor
28. Shaun Alexander
29. Julius Peppers
30. Antonio Gates
31. Troy Polamalu
32. Randy Moss
33. Ed Reed
34. Reggie Bush
35. Ty Law
36. Terrell Owens
37. Edgerrin James
38. Carson Palmer
39. Vince Young
40. Calvin Johnson
41. Matt Leinart
42. Rod Smith
43. Hines Ward
44. Chad Johnson
45. Lofa Tatupu
46. DeMarcus Ware
47. Larry Johnson
48. Steven Jackson
49. A.J. Hawk
50. Adrian Peterson

I mean seriously... what the fuck are they thinking?

The last ten is a joke.How do you have Lienart and Hines Ward and leave out Mcnabb?

[what?]

51 hadda be Michael Vick.

[WoolyGoat]

What has McNabb ever done?

[BIRD33]

What has McNabb ever done?

About as much as Jim Kelly.I'm not saying he's a hall of famer but having Leinert and ward ahead of him is a travesty.

[what?]

What has McNabb ever done?

if I wasn't positive bird was gonna be able to wiggle out of this, I'd stick around all day to see what happens. but it's gonna play out that you'll get in a couple of shots about "if making it to the super bowl is good enough for you" and choking (gagging?) under pressure and then he'll take the out that they've never put a good enough team around him, maybe bash the coaches a little, and say he hates the way the team is run but it's not McNabb's fault. fuck, I was looking forward to this too ><

edit: shit! one post and it's over. :praise: bird

[BIRD33]

if I wasn't positive bird was gonna be able to wiggle out of this, I'd stick around all day to see what happens. but it's gonna play out that you'll get in a couple of shots about "if making it to the super bowl is good enough for you" and choking (gagging?) under pressure and then he'll take the out that they've never put a good enough team around him, maybe bash the coaches a little, and say he hates the way the team is run but it's not McNabb's fault. fuck, I was looking forward to this too ><

Sorry, Charlie.I'm the first to say Mcnabb choked in the superbowl.

[WoolyGoat]

About as much as Jim Kelly.I'm not saying he's a hall of famer but having Leinert and ward ahead of him is a travesty.

Except Kelly made it one step further than McNabb did, for the most part.

The point system they made for this stupid thing was based on a bunch of categories, one of which was potential. That's why there were a couple of guys on the list (Calvin Johnson and Adrian Peterson) on the list who haven't even played a single snap yet. The potential for younger guys like Young and Leinart somehow must've outweighed what McNabb and others have already accomplished.

[BIRD33]

Except Kelly made it one step further than McNabb did, for the most part.

The point system they made for this stupid thing was based on a bunch of categories, one of which was potential. That's why there were a couple of guys on the list (Calvin Johnson and Adrian Peterson) on the list who haven't even played a single snap yet. The potential for younger guys like Young and Leinart somehow must've outweighed what McNabb and others have already accomplished.

Have you noticed how your total devotion to Brady makes you look like an asshole?I know you don't hate Mcnabb or think he sucks but he's no Tom is he?


Lienart was drafted at what pick?Guys a celebrity not a football player.

Question.Mcnabb wins a superbowl, does he make the hall of fame?

ESPN is a fucking joke.Its built for consumption by total retards, kind of like Fox news.That who's more "now" thing is the biggest bunch of crap Ive ever seen.

[Anhil8tor]

why is it only the NFL QB has to win the big one?

[Pong]

you gonna be around today? I may post my auction league team to see what you think...

Post it.

[WoolyGoat]

Have you noticed how your total devotion to Brady makes you look like an asshole?I know you don't hate Mcnabb or think he sucks but he's no Tom is he?


Lienart was drafted at what pick?Guys a celebrity not a football player.

Question.Mcnabb wins a superbowl, does he make the hall of fame?

ESPN is a fucking joke.Its built for consumption by total retards, kind of like Fox news.That who's more "now" thing is the biggest bunch of crap Ive ever seen.

I agree that these ESPN features are absurd, especially this one.

I don't know what you mean about the other part though, I didn't say anything about Brady. Kelly went to four Super Bowls, that's a lot different than losing NFC title games. If McNabb wins one, then I think he's more deserved than Kelly. At this point, he's less.

[BIRD33]

Doesnt losing 4 superbowls almost take away from Kelly?Granted if norwood hits a 30 yarder he's won one but I think Mcnabbs 4 NFC title games and one superbowl are pretty close to Kellys 4 superbowls.

[snarg]

winning the conference > losing the conference

[BIRD33]

I hear you but the guys most known for losing 4 superbowls not getting to them.

[Anhil8tor]

where does barry sanders rank as far as RBs go?

Do you ever hear anyone argue.. well what did he win in detroit?

[WoolyGoat]

I know what you're saying...but a 1-3 record in NFC title games isn't really much to hang your hat on.

4-0, 0-4 is probably better than 1-3, 0-1, but the "4x loser" tag is certainly damaging.