[Tribal Dragon]

W00t!



Senate passes smoking banBy Rocky Mountain News
March 16, 2006
A strict smoking-ban bill was approved by a vote of 19-15 this afternoon in the Senate. The measure bans smoking in bars, restaurants and private clubs, but still allows people to light up in casinos. The House is expected to easily approve the bill tomorrow, and the governor has already indicated he will sign it.
The vote ends bitter, back-and-forth wrangling over whether neighborhood bars should be exempted from the ban. Many people feel that patrons of older, mom-and-pop bars and veterans' halls should be allowed to smoke.
The House and Senate both voted to exclude casinos from the ban.
But in an earlier version of the bill, the Senate had exempted bars, bingo halls, and racetracks. Senators also tried to create an exemption for private clubs but critics said any bar could easily reorganize as a club to skirt the ban.
But ulitmately, the Senate dropped those exemptions.
Sponsor Sen. Dan Grossman, D-Denver, said this morning he thought he had the minimum 18 votes to pass the stricter ban in the Senate. He said the smoking ban is popular with voters.
"The closer we get to the finish line, the more people are jumping on board," he said after a conference committee of
representatives and senators voted to back the House version.

[Blueeyedwoman]

There is no smoking hardly anywhere in Cali except outside. It's sooo nice in bars and restaurants. The smokers usually congregate in little groups outside. It's all good.

[quint]

you don't like the yellow teeth and fingers?
and there's always that great breath.
I wish we had the balls to do it here.

[SanDog]

I, too, enjoy the smoking ban here in In the Socialist State of California.

[Belle]

W00t!



Senate passes smoking banBy Rocky Mountain News
March 16, 2006
A strict smoking-ban bill was approved by a vote of 19-15 this afternoon in the Senate. The measure bans smoking in bars, restaurants and private clubs, but still allows people to light up in casinos. The House is expected to easily approve the bill tomorrow, and the governor has already indicated he will sign it.
The vote ends bitter, back-and-forth wrangling over whether neighborhood bars should be exempted from the ban. Many people feel that patrons of older, mom-and-pop bars and veterans' halls should be allowed to smoke.
The House and Senate both voted to exclude casinos from the ban.
But in an earlier version of the bill, the Senate had exempted bars, bingo halls, and racetracks. Senators also tried to create an exemption for private clubs but critics said any bar could easily reorganize as a club to skirt the ban.
But ulitmately, the Senate dropped those exemptions.
Sponsor Sen. Dan Grossman, D-Denver, said this morning he thought he had the minimum 18 votes to pass the stricter ban in the Senate. He said the smoking ban is popular with voters.
"The closer we get to the finish line, the more people are jumping on board," he said after a conference committee of
representatives and senators voted to back the House version.

lucky motherfucker. it's so damn hard for me and my bf to find anywhere to go around here cause the smoke bothers him so much..

[SanDog]

lucky motherfucker. it's so damn hard for me and my bf to find anywhere to go around here cause the smoke bothers him so much..

Is that because he is a SoCal pussy like me?

[Blueeyedwoman]

I, too, enjoy the smoking ban here in In the Socialist State of California.

Please be politically correct and use our proper name: Mexifornia.

[Belle]

Is that because he is a SoCal pussy like me?

yup!

[lookout below]

Completely disagree with all of you. It should be up to the establishment owner whether to allow smokers or not. Free economy and all.

[Tribal Dragon]

Completely disagree with all of you. It should be up to the establishment owner whether to allow smokers or not. Free economy and all.

No stupid.

[lookout below]

No stupid.

Excellent point. Your in depth analysis betrays a great intellect.


I'm not a grammar smacker, but it always amuses me when a person insults someone's intelligence while using poor grammar.

No, stupid.

[Tribal Dragon]

Excellent point. Your in depth analysis betrays a great intellect.


I'm not a grammar smacker, but it always amuses me when a person insults someone's intelligence while using poor grammar.

No, stupid.

Grammar smack doesn't work here.

Rip your cancerous lungs out of your diseased body, and shove them up your loose rectum.

[Damagedone]

i hate to throw a monkey wrench into the system but i've never smoked a single cigar, cigarette, or water pipe in my entire life and i still think a ban on smoking in privatly owned esablishments is crossing the line. to shut people like me up wouldn't it be a better idea to pass tax breaks for resaurantes that don't allow smoking? just a thought.

[Tribal Dragon]

i hate to throw a monkey wrench into the system but i've never smoked a single cigar, cigarette, or water pipe in my entire life and i still think a ban on smoking in privatly owned esablishments is crossing the line. to shut people like me up wouldn't it be a better idea to pass tax breaks for resaurantes that don't allow smoking? just a thought.

How about increased business after the ban......

States: Smoke ban is a boon
Studies note gains in tax revenues, health of workers





By Bill Scanlon, Rocky Mountain News
March 18, 2006
Most cities and states that ban smoking in restaurants and bars see not only a spike in health but a boost in sales tax revenues, analyses show. Colorado's smoking ban became a virtual certainty Friday when House members approved it 38-24 and sent it to Gov. Bill Owens, who said he will sign it.
It is expected to become law on July 1.
Evidence from the 12 states with smoking bans, as well as the many U.S. cities with widespread bans, indicates that along with fewer burning eyes and hacking coughs comes an uptick in tax revenues from bars and restaurants.
Opponents of smoking bans say that may be true of the overall hospitality industry, but bars and taverns will see a sharp drop in business.
But supporters predict that Coloradans who now shun the night life will return - a trend verified in other places.
New York City enacted a ban March 30, 2003. A year later, business tax receipts from restaurants and bars were up 8.7 percent from the previous year.
The ZagatSurvey for New York restaurants indicated that 23 percent of respondents dined out more often after the ban, while just 4 percent of respondents said they were dining out less.
Delaware also saw an uptick in tax revenues at bars and restaurants since its smoke-free law was enacted.
In California, restaurant and bar receipts have improved every year since the ban was enacted in 1997.
The greatest health benefit will go to the bar worker, who typically inhales the equivalent of 1.5 to 2 packs of cigarettes during an eight-hour shift, said Chris Sherwin, executive director of the Colorado Tobacco Education and Prevention Alliance. "Employees are going to be a lot healthier."
Ban will be 'wonderful'
Magazine writer Ted Stedman said he spent Friday coughing and hacking, after having a couple beers Thursday at a Denver bar.
"I was sitting next to this guy with Camel cigarettes," he said. "You don't want to be a whiner. But I spent all day today hacking, like I had the flu."
Stedman said a smoking ban in Colorado will be "wonderful," and get him out to clubs that he now avoids.
A number of studies concerning both business and health have been conducted in the past few years since smoking bans were enacted.
• In Ireland, where 30 percent of the adults smoke, pub revenues declined between 3 percent and 15 percent, depending on whether proponents or opponents of the two-year-old ban were doing the counting. The theory is that Irish pubs fared worse than American bars after smoking bans because a higher percentage of Irish people are addicted to nicotine.
• Studies in Helena, Mont., and Pueblo found significant drops in hospital admissions for heart attacks in the year after municipal smoking bans.
The Pueblo study found a nearly 30 percent drop in heart attacks in just the first few months.
The Helena study found that after the 2001 smoking ban, heart attacks declined by 40 percent. After the law was suspended because of a legal challenge, the heart attack rate rose again.
• The Helena study, together with a British study that found a smoke-free environment reduced heart problems by 40 percent, prompted the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta to issue a warning that people at risk of heart disease should avoid exposure to secondhand smoke.
CDC pointed to "the immediate effects" secondhand smoke can have in indoor places that allow smoking.
The CDC estimates that 3,000 Americans who've never smoked die each year of lung cancer from secondhand smoke, and another 35,000 nonsmokers die of heart disease as a result of secondhand smoke.
• In New York, before a statewide ban took effect, three of every five restaurant workers reported respiratory problems. After the ban, the number of restaurant workers reporting a morning cough fell by almost half, according to the New York Department of Health.
Most smokers want to quit
Both the tobacco industry and its opponents estimate that smoking bans in cities or states reduce total cigarette consumption by about 10 percent in the first year of the ban.
Sherwin noted that surveys of Colorado smokers find that 85 percent of them want to quit.
"Imagine if you're trying to quit and want to go out and have a drink," Sherwin said. If the bar is filled with smoke, the urge to smoke becomes all the greater, he said. But if the bar is smoke-free, he added, the temptation isn't as strong and the chances of quitting the habit improve.
Some of the revenues from Colorado's newly beefed up tobacco tax are being used to fund a Web site. www.co.quitnet.com, to help smokers quit and to give them eight weeks of free nicotine patches.

[snarg]

Smoking Ban Takes Effect, Indoors and Out


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/nation...?th&emc=th



CALABASAS, Calif., March 17 — One of the toughest antismoking laws in the nation took effect here Friday........The smoking ordinance, which was unanimously passed by the five-member Calabasas City Council last month, prohibits smoking in all public places, indoor or outdoor,.....Smoking in one's car is allowed, unless the windows are open and someone nearby might be affected........


>_>

[leeman]

Smoking Ban Takes Effect, Indoors and Out


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/nation...?th&emc=th



CALABASAS, Calif., March 17 — One of the toughest antismoking laws in the nation took effect here Friday........The smoking ordinance, which was unanimously passed by the five-member Calabasas City Council last month, prohibits smoking in all public places, indoor or outdoor,.....Smoking in one's car is allowed, unless the windows are open and someone nearby might be affected........


>_>

Go Swartzenegger ... :yay: >_>

[snarg]

fucking idiots

[leeman]

fucking idiots

2:rd ....

Well some areas in Finland you're not even allowed to smoke on your balcony ... since the smoke can travel to your neighbour....

[snarg]

2:rd ....

Well some areas in Finland you're not even allowed to smoke on your balcony ... since the smoke can travel to your neighbour....

some residents of a condo in new york tried to get smoking banned inside other people's homes
it is good to live in "the land of the free, the home of the brave"
:ct:

[Tribal Dragon]

some residents of a condo in new york tried to get smoking banned inside other people's homes
it is good to live in "the land of the free, the home of the brave"
:ct:

Snarggy poo, second hand smoke is kind of like spitting a drink in someone's face. Only the police haul you away.

It's amazing you smokers have got away with it this long.