[WoolyGoat]

OBAMA: "We have launched a housing plan that will help responsible families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments and refinance their mortgages. It's a plan that won't help speculators or that neighbor down the street who bought a house he could never hope to afford, but it will help millions of Americans who are struggling with declining home values."


THE FACTS: If the administration has come up with a way to ensure money only goes to those who got in honest trouble, it hasn't said so.










It would be great if he could make this happen.

[Anhil8tor]

Is it true every time obama speaks the market plunges?

[WoolyGoat]

more here, btw

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/...realities/

[Anhil8tor]

Did Jindal speak last night?

I'm pretty sure 90% of South Louisiana adults aren't even sure what they did last night.

[WoolyGoat]

he did

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100...sponsible/

[BIRD33]

Is it true every time obama speaks the market plunges?

I forgot it was soaring before he took office 33 days ago.

[Anhil8tor]

how crazy did he sound?

[BIRD33]

Goat getting his political news from fox news.Priceless.

[Anhil8tor]

on Jan 21st it was over 8K

[WoolyGoat]

one of several morning stops...just happened to be where I grabbed the links from.

[BIRD33]

on Jan 21st it was over 8K

You agree the banking industry is why its tanking right?How is Obama responsible for that crisis?

[BIRD33]

"A federal bank takeover is a bad thing obviously. I wonder though if we conservatives understand clearly enough why it is a bad thing. It’s not because we are living through an enactment of the early chapters of Atlas Shrugged. It’s because the banks are collapsing. Obama, Pelosi, et al are big-spending, high-taxing liberals. They are not socialists. They are no more eager to own these banks than the first President Bush was to own the savings and loan industry – in both cases, federal ownership was a final recourse after a terrible failure. And it was on our watch, not Obama’s, that this failure began. Our refusal to take notice of this obvious fact may excite the Republican faithful. But it is doing tremendous damage to our ability to respond effectively to the crisis," - David Frum, New Majority.

http://www.newmajority.com/ShowScroll.as...4b53f4ea48

[IBHUNG]

You agree the banking industry is why its tanking right?How is Obama responsible for that crisis?

You act as if he didn't know it was in trouble when he ran for office, yet the truth is, he said he had people and plans to turn it around. I see neither.

And the market was on the upswing, since his plan and people have been in place it's dropped 1000 points.

Every press conference I've seen, I'm reminded of that "Deer in the headlights look", he's clueless

[Paddy]

If you're basing your confidence or lack there of in the economy on the movement of the 'market' then you're an idiot. I know people that work on the exchanges in Chicago and New York and they're not that smart. And they'll still make money out of this, buying and selling on the margins.

[BIRD33]

You act as if he didn't know it was in trouble when he ran for office, yet the truth is, he said he had people and plans to turn it around. I see neither.

And the market was on the upswing, since his plan and people have been in place it's dropped 1000 points.

Every press conference I've seen, I'm reminded of that "Deer in the headlights look", he's clueless

I'll take a wild guess and say you didnt watch last night right smart guy?

I'm pretty sure he was pretty general about the whole topic during his campaign because its a pretty broad problem that needs study and can't be fixed by flipping a switch.He does have the people and the plans.I'm sorry he didnt personally have them say hello to you and show you what they are working on.


Are you seriously trying to say he's the reason the markets down?Ok say he does nothing with the banks just to keep you happy and the stock market up for a little while longer.What happens when those banks close their doors forever because of the fucked up way they do business and you've got 1000's of defaulted mortgages and people living in the streets?Where does the market head at that point you fucking idiot?

So no hard decisions that effect the market need to be made right now?Is that what you are telling me?I'm sorry did he create this problem?Do you have a sunshine and rainbows plan in your back pocket that will fix everything and raise the market at the same time?Pull your head out of your ass.

[Moto]

A Leftist's beliefs are all designed to pander to his ego. So when you have an argument with a Leftist, you are not really discussing the facts. You are threatening his self esteem. Which is why the normal Leftist response to challenge is mere abuse.

[BIRD33]

I love quotes that speak in generalities to make someone not have to really think about the issues.

Lets talk facts.Anyone see any outrageous spending by one political party recently?Which party was that?It can't be conservatives because they are the ones who don't like to spend a lot right?Right?


So I guess you are for huge government spending since thats what your party did the last 8 years?

I'm sure you have the coolest gop bumper stickers in the world but maybe take a look at what your favorite teams policies are before you get their name tattooed on you.

[Moto]

Thanks for proving my point.

[BIRD33]

Thanks for proving my point.

why don't you talk about your love of huge spending by our government?Isnt that one of your favorite things about being a republican?Of course you won't answer any of this because how can you?The party you thought you were in doesnt exist anymore but you can't bring yourself to admit it.Keep staring at those smug quotes from a bygone era to take the pain away and help not have to look in the mirror.

I guarantee you won't have the balls to come up with a defense of your parties policies.

[Moto]

Did I ever mention being a Republican? You are correct about the party not existing anymore.